{"id":17923,"date":"2015-04-14T09:48:40","date_gmt":"2015-04-14T09:48:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=17923"},"modified":"2015-04-14T11:02:52","modified_gmt":"2015-04-14T11:02:52","slug":"survey-results-do-ui-option-do-you-use-for-hyper-v-hosts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=17923","title":{"rendered":"Survey Results &#8211; What UI Option Do You Use For Hyper-V Hosts?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thank you to the 424 (!) people who answered the <a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=17908\" target=\"_blank\">survey<\/a> that I started late on Friday afternoon and finished today (Tuesday morning). I asked one question:<\/p>\n<p>What kind of UI installation do you use on Hyper-V hosts?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The FREE Hyper-V Server 2012 R2<\/li>\n<li>Full UI<\/li>\n<li>MinShell<\/li>\n<li>Core<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Before I get to the results \u2026<\/p>\n<h2>The Survey<\/h2>\n<p>Me and some other MVPs used to do a much bigger annual survey. The work required by us was massive, and the amount of questions put people off. I kept this very simple. There were no \u201cwhy\u2019s\u201d or further breakdowns of information. This lead to a bigger sample size.<\/p>\n<h2>The Sample<\/h2>\n<p>We got a pretty big sample size from all around the world, with results from the EU, USA and Canada, eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, the south Pacific, and south America. That\u2019s amazing! Thank you to everyone who helped spread the word. We got a great sample in a very short period of time.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/image9.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float: none; margin-left: auto; display: block; margin-right: auto; border: 0px;\" title=\"image\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/image_thumb7.png\" width=\"600\" height=\"100\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However (there\u2019s always one of these with surveys!), I recognize that the sample is skewed. Anyone, like you, who reads a blog like this, follows influencers on social media, or regularly attends something like a TechNet\/Ignite\/community IT pro events is not a regular IT pro. You are more educated and are not 100% representative of the wider audience. I suspect that more of you are using non-Full UI options (<a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?tag=hyper-v\" target=\"_blank\">Hyper-V<\/a> Server, MinShell or Core) than in the wider market.<\/p>\n<p>Also, some of you who answered this question are consultants or have more complex deployments with a mixture of installations. I asked you to submit your most common answer. So a consultant that selects X might have 15 customers with X, 5 with Y and 2 with Z.<\/p>\n<h2>The Results<\/h2>\n<p>So, here are the results:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/image10.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float: none; margin-left: auto; display: block; margin-right: auto; border: 0px;\" title=\"image\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/image_thumb8.png\" width=\"500\" height=\"246\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>70% of the overall sample chose the full UI for the management OS of their Hyper-V hosts. If we discount the choice of Hyper-V Server (they went that way for specific economic reasons and had no choice of UI) then the result changes.<\/p>\n<p>Of those who had a choice of UI when deploying their hosts, 79% went with the Full UI, 5.5% went with MinShell, and 15% went with Server Core. These numbers aren\u2019t much different to what we saw with W2008 R2, with the addition of MinShell taking share from Server Core. Despite everything Microsoft says, customers have chosen easier management and troubleshooting by leaving the UI on their hosts.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/image11.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float: none; margin-left: auto; display: block; margin-right: auto; border: 0px;\" title=\"image\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/image_thumb9.png\" width=\"600\" height=\"258\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Is there a specific country bias? The biggest response came from the USA (111):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Core: 19.79%<\/li>\n<li>MinShell: 4.17%<\/li>\n<li>Full UI: 76.04%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In the USA, we find more people than average (but still a small minority) using Core and MinShell. Next I compared this to Great Britain, Germany, Austria, Ireland, The Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Slovenia, France and Poland (not an entire European sample but a pretty large one from the top 20 responding countries, coming in at a total of 196 responses):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Core: 13.78%<\/li>\n<li>MinShell: 4.08%<\/li>\n<li>Full UI: 82.14%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It is very clear. The market has spoken and the market has said:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>We like that we have the option to deploy Core or MinShell<\/li>\n<li>But most of us want a Full UI<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Those of you who selected Hyper-V Server did not waste your time. There are very specific and useful scenarios for this freely licensed product. And Microsoft loves to hear that their work in maintaining this SKU has a value in the market. To be honest, I expect this number (10.59%) to gradually grow over time as those without Software Assurance choose to opt into new Hyper-V features without upgrading their guest OS licensing.<\/p>\n<h2>My Opinion<\/h2>\n<p>I have had one opinion on this matter since I first tried a Core install for Hyper-V during the beta of <a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?s=Windows+Server\" target=\"_blank\">Windows Server<\/a> 2008. I would only ever deploy a Full UI. If (and it\u2019s a huge IIF), I managed a HUGE cloud with HA infrastructure then I would deploy Nano Server on vNext. But in every other scenario, I would always choose a Full UI.<\/p>\n<p>The arguments for Core are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Smaller installation<\/strong>: Who cares if it\u2019s 6GB or 16 GB? I can\u2019t buy SD cards that small anymore, let alone hard disks!!!<\/li>\n<li><strong>Smaller attack footprint<\/strong>: You deserve all the bad that can happen if you read email or browse from your hosts.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Fewer patches<\/strong>: Only people who don\u2019t work in the real world count patches. We in the real world count reboots, and there are no reductions. To be honest, this is irrelevant with Cluster Aware Updating (CAU).<\/li>\n<li><strong>More CPU<\/strong>: I\u2019ve yet to see a host in person where CPU is over 33% average utilisation.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Less RAM<\/strong>: A few MB savings on a host with at least 64 GB (rare I see these anymore) isn\u2019t going to be much benefit.<\/li>\n<li><strong>You should use PowerShell<\/strong>: Try using 3rd party management or troubleshooting isolated hosts with PowerShell. Even Microsoft support cannot do this.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Use <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?tag=system-center\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>System Center<\/strong><\/a>: Oh, child! You don\u2019t get out much.<\/li>\n<li><strong>It stops admins from doing X<\/strong>: You\u2019ve got other problems that need to be solved.<\/li>\n<li><strong>You can add the UI back<\/strong>: This person has not patched a Core install over several months and actually tried to re-add the UI &#8211; it is not reliable.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In my experience, and that of most people. servers are not cattle; they are not pets either; no &#8211; they are sacred cows (thank you for finding a good ending to that phrase, <a href=\"https:\/\/workinghardinit.wordpress.com\" target=\"_blank\">Didier<\/a>). We cannot afford to just rebuild servers when things go wrong. They do need to be rescued and trouble needs to be fixed. Right now, the vast majority of problems I hear about are network card driver and firmware related. Try solving those with PowerShell or remote management. You need to be on the machine and solving these issues and you need a full UI. The unreliable HCL for Windows Server has lead to awful customer experiences on Broadcom (VMQ enabled and faulty) and Emulex NICs (taking nearly 12 months to acknowledge the VMQ issue on FCoE NICs).<\/p>\n<p>Owning a host is like owning a car. Those who live in the mainstream have a better experience. Things work better. Those who try to find cheaper alternatives, dare to be different, find other sources \u2026 they\u2019re the ones who call for roadside assistance more. I see this even in the Hyper-V MVP community \u2026 those who dare to be on the ragged edge of everything are the ones having all the issues. Those who stay a little more mainstream, even with the latest tech, are the ones who have a reliable infrastructure and can spend more time focusing on getting more value out of their systems.<\/p>\n<p>Another survey will be coming soon. Please feel free to comment your opinions on the above and what you might like to see in a survey. Remember, surveys need closed answers with few options. Open questions are 100% useless in a survey.<\/p>\n<h2>What about Application Servers?<\/h2>\n<p>That&#8217;s the subject of my <a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=17931\" target=\"_blank\">next survey<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Using This Data<\/h2>\n<p>Please feel free to use the results of the survey if:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>You link back to this post<\/li>\n<li>You may use 1 small quote from this post<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"wlWriterEditableSmartContent\" id=\"scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:7f1a1574-4111-4a6d-92ed-50cc7e08f1e0\" style=\"float: none; margin: 0px; display: inline; padding: 0px;\">Technorati Tags: <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Hyper-V\" rel=\"tag\">Hyper-V<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Hyper-V+Server\" rel=\"tag\">Hyper-V Server<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Virtualisation\" rel=\"tag\">Virtualisation<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Deployment\" rel=\"tag\">Deployment<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thank you to the 424 (!) people who answered the survey that I started late on Friday afternoon and finished today (Tuesday morning). 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