{"id":15886,"date":"2014-01-14T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-01-14T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=15886"},"modified":"2014-04-22T15:55:50","modified_gmt":"2014-04-22T15:55:50","slug":"a-kitparts-list-for-a-ws2012-r2-hyper-v-cluster-with-dataon-smb-3-0-storage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=15886","title":{"rendered":"A Kit\/Parts List For A WS2012 R2 Hyper-V Cluster With DataOn SMB 3.0 Storage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve had a number of requests to specify the pieces of a solution where there is a Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper-V cluster that uses SMB 3.0 to store virtual machines on a Scale-Out File Server with Storage Spaces (JBOD). So that\u2019s what I\u2019m going to try to do with this post. Note that I am not going to bother with pricing:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It takes too long to calculate<\/li>\n<li>Prices vary from country to country<\/li>\n<li>List pricing is usually meaningless; work with a good distributor\/reseller and you\u2019ll get a bid\/discount price.<\/li>\n<li>Depending on where you live in the channel, you might be paying distribution price, trade price, or end-customer price, and that determines how much margin has been added to each component.<\/li>\n<li>I\u2019m lazy<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Scale-Out File Server<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Remember that an SOFS is a cluster that runs a special clustered file server role for application data. A cluster requires shared storage. That shared storage will be one or more Mini-SAS-attached JBOD trays (on the Storage Spaces HCL list) with Storage Spaces supplying the physical disk aggregation and virtualization (normally done by SAN controller software).<\/p>\n<p>On the blade versus rack server question: I always go rack server. I\u2019ve been burned by the limited flexibility and high costs of blades. Sure you can get 64 blades into a rack \u2026 but at what cost!?!?! FlexFabric-like solutions are expensive, and strictly speaking, not supported by Microsoft \u2013 not to mention they limit your bandwidth options hugely. The massive data centres that I\u2019ve seen and been in use 1U and 2U rack servers.\u00a0 I like 2U rack servers over 1U because 1U rack servers such as the R420 have only 1 full-height and 1 half-height PCI expansion slots. That half-height slot makes for tricky expansion.<\/p>\n<p>For storage (and more) networking, I\u2019ve elected to go with RDMA networking. Here you have two good choices:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>iWARP: More affordable and running at 10 GbE \u2013 what I\u2019ve illustrated here. Your vendor choice is Chelsio.<\/li>\n<li>Infiniband: Amazing speeds (56 Gbps with faster to come) but more expensive. Your vendor choice is Mellanox.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I\u2019ve ruled out RoCE. It\u2019s too damned complicated \u2013 just ask Didier Van Hoye (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/workinghardinit\" target=\"_blank\">@workinghardinit<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>There will be two servers:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2 x Dell R720:<\/span><\/strong> Dual Xeon CPU, 6 GB RAM, rail kits, dual CPU, on-board quad port 1 GbE NICs. The dual CPU gives me scalability to handle lots of hosts\/clusters.\u00a0The 4 x 1 GbE NICs are teamed (dynamic load distribution) for management functionality. I\u2019d upgrade the built-in iDRAC Essentials to the Enterprise edition to get the KVM console and virtual media features. A pair of disks in RAID1 configuration are used for the OS in each of the SOFS nodes.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">10 x 1 GbE cables<\/span><\/strong>: This is to network the 4 x 1 GbE onboard NICs and the iDRAC management port. Who needs KVM when you\u2019ve already bought it in the form of iDRAC.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2 x Chelsio T520-CR<\/span><\/strong>: Dual port 10 GbE SFP+ iWARP (RDMA) NICs. These two rNICs are not teamed (not compatible with RDMA). They will reside on different VLANs\/subnets for SMB Multichannel (cluster requirement). The role of these NICs is to converge SMB 3.0 storage, and cluster communications. I might even use these networks for backup traffic.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">4 x SFP+ cables<\/span><\/strong>: These are to connect the two servers to the two SFP+ 10 GbE switches.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2 x LSI 9207-8e Mini-SAS HBAs<\/span><\/strong>: These are dual port Mini-SAS adapters that you insert into each server to connect to the JBOD(s). Windows MPIO provides the path failover.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2 x Windows Server Standard Edition<\/span><\/strong>: We don\u2019t need virtualization rights on the SOFS nodes. Standard edition includes Failover Clustering.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Regarding the JBODs:<\/p>\n<p>Only use devices on the Microsoft HCL for your version of Windows Server. There are hardware features in these \u201cdumb\u201d JBODs that are required. And the testing process will probably lead to the manufacturer tweaking their hardware.<\/p>\n<p>Not that although \u201cany\u201d dual channel SAS drive can be used, some firmwares <em>are<\/em> actually better than others. DataOn Storage maintain their own HCL of tested HDDs &amp; SSDs and HBAs. Stick with the list that your JBOD vendor recommends.<\/p>\n<p>How many and what kind of drives do you need? That depends. My example is just that: an example.<\/p>\n<p>How many trays do you need? Enough to hold your required number of drives \ud83d\ude00 Really though, if I know that I will scale out to fill 3 trays then I will buy those 3 trays up front. Why? Because 3 trays is the minimum required for tray fault tolerance with 2-way mirror virtual disks (LUNs). Simply going from 1 tray to 2 and then 3 won\u2019t do because data does not relocate.<\/p>\n<p>Also remember that if you want tiered storage then there is a <a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=15863\" target=\"_blank\">minimum number of SSDs<\/a> (STRONGLY) recommended per tray.<\/p>\n<p>Regarding using SATA drives: DON\u2019T DO IT! The available interposer solution is strongly discouraged, even by DataOn.\u00a0 If you really need SSD for tiered storage then you really need to pay (through the nose).<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s my <strong><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">EXAMPLE<\/span><\/em><\/strong> configuration:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">3 x DataOn Storage DNS-1640D<\/span><\/strong>: 24 x 2.5\u201d disk slots in each 2U tray, each with a blank disk caddy for a dual channel SAS SSD or HDD drive. Each has dual boards for Mini-SAS connectivity (A+B for server 1 and A+B for server 2), and A+B connectivity for tray stacking. There is also dual PSU in each tray.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">18 x Mini-SAS cables<\/span><\/strong>: These cables are used to connect the LSI cards in the servers to the JBOD(s) and to stack the trays. At least I think 18 cables are required. They\u2019re short cables because the servers are on top\/under the JBOD trays and the entire storage solution is just 10U in height.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">12 x STEC S842E400M2 400GB SSD<\/span><\/strong>: Go google the price of these for a giggle! These are not your typical (or even \u201centerprise\u201d) SSD that you\u2019ll stick in a laptop.\u00a0 I\u2019m putting 4 into each JBOD, the recommended minimum number of SSDs in tiered storage if doing 2-way mirroring.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">48 x Seagate ST900MM0026 900 GB 10K SAS HDD<\/span><\/strong>: This gives us the bulk of the storage. There are 20 slots free (after the SSDs) in each JBOD and I\u2019ve put in 16 disks into each. That gives me loads of capacity and some wiggle room to add more disks of either type.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">18 x Mini-SAS Cables<\/span><\/strong>: I\u2019m not looking at a diagram and I\u2019m tired so 18 might not be the right number. There\u2019s a total of 10U of hardware in the SOFS (servers + JBOD) so short Mini-SAS cables will do the trick. These are used to attach the servers to the JBODs and to daisy chain the JBODs. The connections are fault tolerant \u2013 hence the high number of cables.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And that\u2019s the SOFS, servers + JBODs with disks.<\/p>\n<p>Just to remind you: it\u2019s a sample spec. You might have one JBOD, you might have 4, or you might go with the 60 disk slot models. It all depends.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Hyper-V Hosts<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My hosting environment will consist of one Hyper-V cluster with 8 nodes. This could be:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A few clusters, all sharing the same SOFS<\/li>\n<li>One or more clusters with some non-clustered hosts, all sharing the same SOFS<\/li>\n<li>Lots of non-clustered hosts, all sharing the same SOFS<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>One of the benefits of SMB 3.0 storage is that a shared folder is more flexible than a CSV on a SAN LUN. There are more sharing options, and this means that Live Migration can span the traditional boundary of storage without involving Shared-Nothing Live Migration.<\/p>\n<p>Regarding host processors, the L2\/L3 cache plays a huge role in performance. Try to get as new a processor as possible. And remember, it\u2019s all Intel or all AMD; do not mix the brands.<\/p>\n<p>There are lots of possible networking designs for these hosts. I\u2019m going to use the <a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=14879\" target=\"_blank\">design<\/a> that I\u2019ve implemented in the lab at work, and it\u2019s also one that Microsoft recommends. A pair or rNICs (iWARP) will be used for the storage and cluster networking, residing on the same two VLANs as the cluster\/storage networks that the SOFS nodes are on. Then two other NICs are going to be used for host and VM networking. These two NICs could be 1 GbE or 10 GbE or faster, depending on the needs of your VMs. I\u2019ve got 4 pNICs to play with so I will team them.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">8 x Dell R720:<\/span><\/strong> Dual Xeon CPU, 256 GB RAM, rail kits, dual CPU, on-board quad port 1 GbE NICs. These are some big hosts. Put lots of RAM in because that\u2019s the cheapest way to scale. CPU is almost never the 1st or even 2nd bottleneck in host capacity. The 4 x 1 GbE NICs are teamed (dynamic load distribution) for VM networking and management functionality. I\u2019d upgrade the built-in iDRAC Essentials to the Enterprise edition to get the KVM console and virtual media features. A pair of disks in RAID1 configuration are used for the management OS.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">40 x 1 GbE cables<\/span><\/strong>: This is to network the 4 x 1 GbE onboard NICs and the iDRAC management port in each host. Who needs KVM when you\u2019ve already bought it in the form of iDRAC.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">8 x Chelsio T520-CR<\/span><\/strong>: Dual port 10 GbE SFP+ iWARP (RDMA) NICs. These two rNICs are not teamed (not compatible with RDMA). They will reside on the same two different VLANs\/subnets as the SOFS nodes. The role of these NICs is to converge SMB 3.0 storage, SMB 3.0 Live Migration (you gotta see it to believe it!), and cluster communications. I might even use these networks for backup traffic.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">16 x SFP+ cables<\/span><\/strong>: These are to connect the two servers to the two SFP+ 10 GbE switches.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">8 x Windows Server Datacenter Edition<\/span><\/strong>: The Datacenter edition gives us unlimited rights to install Windows Server into VMs that will run on these licensed hosts, making it the economical choice. Enabling Automatic Virtual Machine Activation in the VMs will simplify VM guest OS activation.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p>There are no HBAs in the Hyper-V hosts; the storage (SOFS) is accessed via SMB 3.0 over the rNICs.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Other Stuff<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hmm, we\u2019re going to need:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2 x SFP+ 10 GbE Switches with DBC support<\/span><\/strong>: Data Center Bridging really is required to do QoS of RDMA traffic. If would need PFC (Priority Flow Control) support if using RoCE for RDMA (not recommended \u2013 do either iWARP or Infiniband). Each switch needs at least 12 ports \u2013 allow for scalability.\u00a0 For example, you might put your backup server on this network.<\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">2 x 1 GbE Switches<\/span><\/strong>: You really need a pair of 48 port top-of-rack switches in this design due to the number of 1 GbE ports being used and the need for growth.<\/li>\n<li>Rack<\/li>\n<li>PDU<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And there\u2019s probably other bits. For example, you might run a 2-node cluster for System Center and other management VMs. The nodes would have 32-64 GB RAM each. Those VMs could be stored on the SOFS or even on a JBOD that is directly attached to the 2 nodes with Storage Spaces enabled. You might run a server with lots of disk as your backup server. You might opt to run a pair of 1U servers are physical domain controllers for your infrastructure.<\/p>\n<p>I recently priced up a kit, similar to above. It came in much cheaper than the equivalent blade\/SAN configuration, which was a nice surprise. Even better was that the SOFS had 3 times more storage included than the SAN in that pricing!<\/p>\n<div class=\"wlWriterEditableSmartContent\" id=\"scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:a44c8536-3db1-429f-aa75-e7d4316ce6ef\" style=\"float: none; margin: 0px; display: inline; padding: 0px;\">Technorati Tags: <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Hyper-V\" rel=\"tag\">Hyper-V<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Windows+Server+2012+R2\" rel=\"tag\">Windows Server 2012 R2<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Virtualisation\" rel=\"tag\">Virtualisation<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Scale-Out+File+Server\" rel=\"tag\">Scale-Out File Server<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Storage\" rel=\"tag\">Storage<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Storage+Spaces\" rel=\"tag\">Storage Spaces<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tags\/Hardware\" rel=\"tag\">Hardware<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve had a number of requests to specify the pieces of a solution where there is a Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper-V cluster that uses SMB 3.0 to store virtual machines on a Scale-Out File Server with Storage Spaces (JBOD). 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