{"id":11832,"date":"2011-10-10T18:17:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-10T17:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=11832"},"modified":"2011-10-10T18:17:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-10T17:17:00","slug":"comparing-3-cpu-types-in-hyper-v-assessment-hardware-sizing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=11832","title":{"rendered":"Comparing 3 CPU Types in Hyper-V Assessment Hardware Sizing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Measure twice and cut once.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m assisting with a very large Hyper-V sizing process at the moment.&#160; It\u2019s a rare one where CPU appears to be the bottleneck instead of RAM.&#160; As such, I\u2019m spending some time comparing the traits and sizing of different CPUs.&#160; Before the real assessment starts, I\u2019ve fired up a small lab just to do a few comparisons between:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>2 * AMD Opteron 6180 12 core CPUs<\/li>\n<li>2 * Intel Xeon X5690 6 core CPUs<\/li>\n<li>2 * Intel E7 Xeon E7-4870 10 Core CPUs<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The positives for AMD, they have the plus of having more cores (logical processors) with a lower price.&#160; The positives for Intel are that they have 2 threads of execution per logical processor, but that does come at a higher cost.&#160; Who wins?&#160; I\u2019ll let MAP 6.0 decide that:<\/p>\n<p>I came up with 3 server specifications, each using one of the above processor configurations.&#160; I assessed 4 virtual machines and then ran the MAP 6.0 Server Consolidation Wizard to see how much of the host hardware would be utilised by the VMs.&#160; The results were:<\/p>\n<p><strong><u>2 * AMD Opteron 6180 12 core CPUs<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/image.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: block; float: none; margin-left: auto; border-top: 0px; margin-right: auto; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"image\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/image_thumb.png\" width=\"504\" height=\"81\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><u>2 * Intel Xeon X5690 6 core CPUs<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Not surprisingly, the 12 core AMD CPU beats the Intel 6 core CPU.&#160; But the margin is very small.&#160; Those 2 threads of execution per logical processor gives Intel more BHP per core.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/image1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px\" title=\"image\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/image_thumb1.png\" width=\"504\" height=\"79\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><u>2 * Intel E7 Xeon E7-4870 10 Core CPUs<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This is Intel\u2019s latest CPU.&#160; With it, the VMs are using 2.25% less of the CPU than the AMD 12 core CPU, and 2.36% less than the Intel 6 core CPU.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/image2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"background-image: none; 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