{"id":10263,"date":"2010-01-13T18:02:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-13T18:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=10263"},"modified":"2010-01-13T18:02:00","modified_gmt":"2010-01-13T18:02:00","slug":"hyper-v-can-i-virtualise-everything-domain-controllers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aidanfinn.com\/?p=10263","title":{"rendered":"Hyper-V: Can I Virtualise Everything: Domain Controllers?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve seen this one a few times on forums and I\u2019ve been asked it at sessions I\u2019ve presented at.&#160; People are deploying Hyper-V in medium and large businesses and they are wondering if they should virtualise absolutely everything in their data centre.<\/p>\n<p>The answer is no.&#160; <\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s start with the obvious.&#160; Some applications or operating systems may not have vendor support for virtualisation.&#160; If that\u2019s the case then you shouldn\u2019t virtualise them.&#160; However, many still do and they get by with no negative impacts.&#160; 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